Uh-Oh! David Pogue Loses His DNS User Files and Other Goodies

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/technology/ci...

Gotta register to read. He shoulda had and used Acronis TrueImage or similar capabilities.

Bruce

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Talks about backing up

Talks about backing up here:

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/technology/ci...

including moving your Outlook email and DNS user files folders. He mentions both image backups (but not Acronic TrueImage!) and real backups using Retrospect.

For a more complete discussion, including traditional backup, continuous backup and imaging backup (and why the latter might not be the single best strategy), see:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1847366,00.as...

which rates Retrospect highest, and puts new and improved Norton Ghost above TrueImage for imaging, and also recommends Norton Go Back for continuous backup.

Bruce

Personally, I prefer Norton

Personally, I prefer Norton Ghost which I have used with great benefit in restoring my C drive. I usually do this when I'm having lunch (10 minutes! Sad ). Restoration takes about 15 minutes also done at a lunch time.

The essential thing, of course, is to make regular backups of documents and etc., and I do this by copying to a back-up partition, and then copying all the backups to an external hard drive.

Quentin

What do you think about

What do you think about their suggestion that you forego defragging if you use imaging backup?

Bruce

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BruceCyr wrote:What do you

BruceCyr wrote:

What do you think about their suggestion that you forego defragging if you use imaging backup?

Bruce

Bruce,

I have used Norton Ghost 9, but I am not sure to what you are referring regarding defragging if you use imaging backup? Would you elaborate?

Chuck

Referring to the excellent

Referring to the excellent article in PC Magazine mentioned by Bruce (and I agree with everything it states and I have always practised what it preaches), it states that "Note that most solutions can't restore individual e-mail messages, because they see your whole mailbox as a single file. (As a safeguard, make sure your e-mail accounts keep a copy of every message on the server.)"

I can only talk about Outlook Express, and I have moved my store folder to one of my partitions (away from the OS system) and this is done by going to Tools \ Options \ Maintenance tab \ Store Folder button \ Change button. You can move the message file to any location, even into a folder within My Documents. And you could have My Documents in a separate partition away from the OS system.

From my reading of the New York Times article, the same would apply to the .pst file in Microsoft Outlook.

To back this up, using Windows Explorer, simply copy the store folder to any location you want.

When messages folder become over-full, using Windows Explorer, simply change the name to a unique identifier, and create a new folder. Then follow the above procedure and make the new folder the store folder.

One of the weaknesses of ViaVoice 10.5 is that the user voice files are on the OS system drive there is no automatic backup feature as in DNS. Therefore is always important for ViaVoice users to back up the user folders on a regular basis using the manual back-up system within ViaVoice Options, and/or simply copying the user folders from C: \ Documents and Settings \ [prime user name] \ Application Data \ IBM \ ViaVoice \ Users and copying to your back up location. I have the latter simplified this by putting a new folder on my Desktop with two short cuts in that – the location of my principal user folder and the backup location. I have put in my computer diary an automatic weekly reminder to do the back up. The whole operation does not take more than 30 seconds.

As regards Referring to the excellent article in PC Magazine mentioned by Bruce (and I agree with everything it states and I have always practised what it preaches), it states that "Note that most solutions can't restore individual e-mail messages, because they see your whole mailbox as a single file. (As a safeguard, make sure your e-mail accounts keep a copy of every message on the server.)"

I can only talk about Outlook Express, and I have moved my store folder to one of my partitions (away from the OS system) and this is done by going to Tools \ Options \ Maintenance tab \ Store Folder button \ Change button. You can move the message file to any location, even into a folder within My Documents. And you could have My Documents in a separate partition away from the OS system.

From my reading of the New York Times article, the same would apply to the .pst file in Microsoft Outlook.

To back this up, using Windows Explorer, simply copy the store folder to any location you want.

When messages folder become over-full, using Windows Explorer, simply change the name to a unique identifier, and create a new folder. Then follow the above procedure and make the new folder the store folder.

One of the weaknesses of ViaVoice 10.5 is that the user voice files are on the OS system drive there is no automatic backup feature as in DNS. Therefore is always important for ViaVoice users to back up the user folders on a regular basis using the manual back-up system within ViaVoice Options, and/or simply copying the user folders from C: \ Documents and Settings \ [prime user name] \ Application Data \ IBM \ ViaVoice \ Users and copying to your back up location. I have the latter simplified this by putting a new folder on my Desktop with two short cuts in that – the location of my principal user folder and the backup location. I have put in my computer diary an automatic weekly reminder to do the back up. The whole operation does not take more than 30 seconds.

If you are formatting the disk before restoring the image, this is not necessary. However if you are simply restoring the image overwriting the existing files and folders, I believe defragmenting is necessary. A programme such as Diskkeeper makes light work of this operation.

Quentin

But you miss the point re:

But you miss the point re: individual email recovery.

No matter where you move the email repository, you still can't extract individual emails from it using your backup software: You have to restore the repository and access individual emails through your email software.

I'm not sure what point they're making here, unless they're trying to forestall a flood of inquiries about problems of recovering individual emails from users who don't get the point.

But you miss the point re: individual email recovery etc. . . .

Bruce

The article says: "Note,

The article says:

"Note, though, that if you're using the imaging tool's incremental backup, you may want to avoid defragmenting your source drive. Since, under the covers, the imaging tools see your hard drive as a collection of sectors and clusters, a hard drive change like a defrag requires a new backup of every bit of data that was moved to another physical location on the drive, even if the actual file contents didn't change."

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1847454,00.as...

The implication is that if you use imaging, then after defragging you might as well do a complete rather than an incremental backup. So if you use imaging and defragment regularly, then you should always do a complete rather than an incremental image.

Bruce

PS: They neglect to mention amongst their tips and tricks that you should do basic clean up before backing up to minimize wasted storage space, i.e., empty all caches, delete temp files, etc. However, since defragging itself is a potentially crippling operation (though I can't recall the last time defragging left me unable to operate my system), you should defrag after rather than before backing up. Or, if you follow their suggestion to mix imaging with traditional backup, you could image, defrag, then backup.

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What I've done is set up a

What I've done is set up a separate partition (8 GB) for temporary files, internet cache, paging file, and the like. This way I don't have to worry about cleaning it up, nor have the backup program spend time backing up what amounts to junk.

I also use imaging and defragmentation software. I do a weekly full image, and a daily incremental. the full images about 36 GB in size, and incremental ranges from 500 MB to 8 GB.  like you suggest, if you're starting from a largely defragmented drive before you do an image, additional defragmentations won't have too much of an effect on the size of the incremental image.

 

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