Moving Nuance Files
Submitted by lem729 on Mon, 09/24/2007 - 20:49.
I have a partitioned computer (SONY) with limited space in the C: drive, and most of the available space in a D:Drive.
Now when I installed Dragon, I indicated that I wanted it installed in the D drive, and the program itself was installed there (but not the User data).
However, I am short of space, and in trying to cut files in my c:drive, I noted that at
c:\documents & settings\All Users\application data\Nuance, there's a 1.17 gig Nuance file, which has NaturallySpeaking9 in it with User data.
In c:\documents & settings\MyName\application data, there's a tiny Nuance file.
I tried moving the giant Nuance file (1.17 gig) to my D drive. And under the NaturallySpeaking menu bar item, I selected Manage Users, hoping to somehow indicate that my User Files were on the D: drive, and to create a user for that. Nothing I did however, seemed to be able to create a User for the D:drive. Instead what I tried to do ruined the program. I had to uninstall the program, and resinstall it.
It would save a lot of space for me on the c:drive, if I could move this 1.17 gig file to the d:drive, or at least the bulk of it. Is there a way to do this? I'd love to be able to save 1 gig of space on the C drive. That's why when I was installing Dragon, I indicated I wanted it on the D drive.
lem729 wrote: ... I noted
... I noted that at c:\documents & settings\All Users\application data\Nuance, there's a 1.17 gig Nuance file, which has NaturallySpeaking9 in it with User data.
In c:\documents & settings\MyName\application data, there's a tiny Nuance file.
How has your folder reached 1.17 Gb ?
I note my one in that location is 450 mb. (I note that my ViaVoice in c:\documents & settings\ [my name] \application data\ IBM \ ViaVoice is 43 mb, and this includes all my user and temp files.)
I installed DNS 9.5 Preferred (168 mb) in my J drive (I have 12 partitions on a 60 Gb disc). I had no problem installing in that partition.
It is some time ago since I did this, and I cannot remember what comes up at installation, but somewhere or other there must be a choice option.
Quentin
I'm not sure how it's at
I'm not sure how it's at that size. It was bigger when I uninstalled the program, but during uninstallation, I chose the option delete my voice files, as I wanted to start from scratch. Also, I went into the c:drive afterwards,and made sure to delete the folder in c:\documents & settings\All Users\application data\Nuance before reinstalling Dragon 9.
When I reinstalled, the user file came back on the c:drive with slightly smaller size than before, but still quite large. Now I did say on reinstallation, look for existing voice files (that question was asked in the reinstallation) (and maybe that was a careless click), because I assumed I'd deleted them all, so the program wouldn't find existing voice files.
I only remember an option: where do you want to install the program. I chose the D: drive. So I have no comprehension of why the voice files seem to come up on the c drive.
In the Professional version,
In the Professional version, I think you change this by saying "manage users", and then saying Advanced, Export. Export your user files were you want them. Then say Advanced, Import (you may have to change the name of your new user) and import what you backed up...
If you open your user folder
If you open your user folder you will probably find a ta, tt and/or tb folder. These folders are temporary folders but in the event of a crash may permanently retain information. You can delete these folders. NaturallySpeaking will automatically generate new empty folders. Your user files shouldn't exceed 700 Mb (assuming you don't have additional specialty vocabularies). Also note that the backup folder is a carbon copy of your current folder and the current folder is where all of your personal user files information is stored. Basically there are 2 copies of your user files in your user folder.
Importing is one way to back up your user files but we prefer the bulletproof Windows Explorer option which will also allow you to examine the previously mentioned folders. You will find a step-by-step on “copying user files” in our Quick Tips if you you would like additional information.
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That seems available with my
That seems available with my Preferred version also. If I click on Manage Users, Advanced, I do get an export option. Is that the trick. I export the User files to the D:drive, and then delete them from the C:drive.
That would be great as it would free up a lot of space. Still, when I utilize it, it only moves about 52 Megabytes to the D drive, not the whole file that was on the c:drive. Also, when I try to manage the user by indicating that the User files are on the D:drive, the program doesn't seem to work. Only when I go back to the files being "default" that is, on the C:drive does the program start working again.
Therefore, I don't think this export of (I'm not sure what), permits to erase the 1.17 gigabye Nuance file filling up my c:drive.
1.12 Gigabytes was in the
1.12 Gigabytes was in the Data folder on my c:drive under NaturallySpeaking9.
All my files that were tb, tt, etc. were empty. My user file was only 52.1 megabytes. The problem isn't the user file.
So why such a huge Date folder file on the c:drive, when during project installation, I set up Dragon to install the program on my d:drive, and can it be moved to the D:drive. That's my question. I have the Preferred version of Naturally Speaking 9
DNS 9 is supposed to have a
DNS 9 is supposed to have a ceiling on how much data it needs to save but you may be able to limit or turn this feature completely off in your options (depending on what flavor of NaturallySpeaking you are using). However, you can completely delete the data folder. NaturallySpeaking will automatically create a new one and begin the process again. The data folder is used in optimizing and isn't necessary to your user profile.
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But if I just uninstalled
But if I just uninstalled and reinstalled Dragon, why is the file so big. Shouldn't the data file then be small?
There is obviously some
There is obviously some confusion about the data folders. We were referring to the data archive folder in your current user folder directory and it appears that you are referring to the data folder at ~ C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking9\Data\Enx\dvcu\general\ which, in our computer, is 1.11 Gb. Do not delete this folder. It is supposed to be this large because it's a major piece of NaturallySpeaking.
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Yes, you're right about the
Yes, you're right about the folder I as referring to. What's frustrating is why such a huge folder taking up all that space is on the C:drive, when I, at the time of installation, chose to have Dragon put the program on the D:drive. Is there a way to move this file to my d:drive and still have it working? My program is Dragon Version 9 Preferred. My problem with the c:drive is that it has very limited space.
lem729 wrote: Yes, you're
Yes, you're right about the folder I as referring to. What's frustrating is why such a huge folder taking up all that space is on the C:drive, when I, at the time of installation, chose to have Dragon put the program on the D:drive. Is there a way to move this file to my d:drive and still have it working? My program is Dragon Version 9 Preferred. My problem with the c:drive is that it has very limited space.
Export your user files to a folder you can find it later. Uninstall Dragon. Reinstall to the default C: folder. Import user files. The files should not take up that much space. My user mature user files at:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking9\Users\Martin Markoe\current
are about 185 megabytes. If your's are much larger, you can easily create a new user and move your added words and macros to the new user and start lean and mean. CLICK HERE for easy to follow directions how to do this. Note, we never use the Optimizer.
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We think Marty may be
We think Marty may be mistaken about the ~ C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Nuance\NaturallySpeaking9\Data\ folder address as we were when we first answered your question. Marty is correct in that you can move your user folder to any address or drive you desire (including a thumb drive) but you cannot move the 1.11 GHz data folder from Drive C:. Even though you can choose which drive to install NaturallySpeaking on, about 75% of the program is still going to the drive that contains the operating system. We understand that you are trying to keep your Drive C: lean and mean but that train of thought hasn't been necessary since Windows XP. With today's technology it is simply much easier to install everything on a large C: Drive. You don't have to put all of your programs on Drive C: but it is often a lot easier to go with the manufacturer's default installation settings. If you have limited space on Drive C: than our first recommendation would be to replace it. We realize this will require a lot of work but you only have to do it once and large hard drives are extremely inexpensive.
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KnowBrainer wrote: If you
If you have limited space on Drive C: than our first recommendation would be to replace it. We realize this will require a lot of work but you only have to do it once and large hard drives are extremely inexpensive.
Not necessary if your D drive is big enough. Simply resize C drive by taking what you need from D drive and allocating it to C drive. Partition Magic (which is what I use) is a very easy programme to use for this. I am not sure if it can be done using XP native partitioning, as I have never used it.
Quentin
I shouldn't have to buy a
I shouldn't have to buy a new hard drive to deal with Dragon's not permitting me to put the program where I need to on my computer. As for repartitioning, I'm sorry, but it's much too complicated for me. I have a partitioned Sony computer, with limited space on the C:drive. I want to work with that. The inflexibility of Dragon in terms of this data file in excess of 1 gig is a problem. Further, I do have Windows XP. The last response indicated, I think, that there is an uncertainty about reallocating space from the d:drive to the c:drive with Windows XP.